______________________________________________________________________________ | File Name : FROLOV3.ASC | Online Date : 12/27/95 | | Contributed by : Chuck Knight | Dir Category : GRAVITY | | From : KeelyNet BBS | DataLine : (214) 324-3501 | | KeelyNet * PO BOX 870716 * Mesquite, Texas * USA * 75187 | | A FREE Alternative Sciences BBS sponsored by Vanguard Sciences | | InterNet email keelynet@ix.netcom.com (Jerry Decker) | | Files also available at Bill Beaty's http://www.eskimo.com/~billb | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| This file refers to electro-gravitation based on the research of T.T. Brown. You might also find the file STOWGRAD of interest because Paul says a gradient field can be generated to produce lift or propulsion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:46:09 -0600 (CST) From: Chuck Knight To: keelynet@ix.netcom.com Subject: Electrogravity (fwd) Jerry...I thought you'd appreciate this message. It's from a guy in Russia who is working on an electrogravitic disc, much like T.T. Brown. Also, he explains the principle...I thought you could contact him and maybe put it on Keelynet. -- Chuck Knight ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Larry Adams ( ladams@got.net ) wrote: < The TT Brown capacitor produces equal and opposite forces on the plates: < Newton's Third Law says if the forces are equal and opposite - NO MOTION. < The only thing that could make it move is for the capacitor to be attracted < to other dielectric bodies. Tom Capizzi ( tcapizzi@world.std.com ) wrote: < No one is disputing the effect of a dielectric body, but no such body seems < to be required in the demonstrations conducted by Brown himself. < I for one am looking forward to such data, whether it is supportive or not of T.T.Brown. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Sirs, Did you see T. T. Brown's patent USA 3,187,206 Electrokinetic apparatus, June 1, 1965? Look at Figure 5, Figure 6, Figure 7. The idea is THE ASYMMETRY for electric potential field. Before I saw these Figures I prepared own patents on it, but now it is clear that I invented old news of 1965. So, what is a "dielectric body form" that produces motion in an electrostatic device. I----------------------> positive Look at the Figure here: ______I_______ /I I I I\ / I I I I \ / I I I I \ / I I I I \ / I I opened I I \ /dielectricI I cylinder I Idielectric\ /____________I I I I____________\ ______________ ______________ ring ring I-----------> negative A Positive charged cylinder and a Negative charged ring are two plates forming a simple asymmetrical capacitor. Forces from the ring to the cylinder are perpendicular to its surface and the sum of forces is equal to zero. Forces from the cylinder to the ring are perpendicular to the ring and its sum is not equal to zero. This Asymmetrical capacitor moves upwards in this diagram. The T.T.Brown version used an asymmetrical form for the dielectric body like this: ----------------- positive plate ____ / \ / \ /____________\ --------------------- negative plate It is a cross-section of the dielectric body, where the view is from the butt- end. It is clear that forces are asymmetrical here since the lines of the electrical field are curved. Let's try show it here: metal plate of capacitor /positive/ . ------.-------.-------.---------.-.-.-.- . . . . _._._._._ . . . / . . . ./ . . / . / . . / ./ / dielectric body . / / /__________________________________ ------------------------------------------------ metal plate of capacitor /negative/ The rule is that the line of field is always perpendicular to the surface. The asymmetric pattern is necessary to develop the forces here. I am ready for joint experimental work or patent work in this direction if you can offer some help in funds for equipment for it. Please, contact my partner for discussion of conditions: David Rogers / rogersda@direct.ca / The calculations I made show that 1000 Volts can create force of several Kg for a capacitor 1 m diameter. It is defined by the distance between plates and by the material of the dielectric. Microtechnology that can create submilimeter size shapes for the dielectric decribed above which will allow it to be built and tested. IF YOU WISH TO CARRY OUT THIS EXPERIMENT AND BUILD A REAL ELECTROGRAVITY MACHINE, PLEASE CONTACT ME OR DAVID ROGERS. Alexander V. Frolov - Engineer Alexander V. Frolov email: alex@frolov.spb.su P. O. Box 37, St.-Petersburg, 193024, Russia """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" -> Posted by: "alex" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------