______________________________________________________________________________ | File Name : LEACH1.ASC | Online Date : 08/02/94 | | Contributed by : Bill Beaty | Dir Category : ENERGY | | From : KeelyNet BBS | DataLine : (214) 324-3501 | | KeelyNet * PO BOX 1031 * Mesquite, Texas * USA * 75149 | | A FREE Alternative Sciences BBS sponsored by Vangard Sciences | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following I received from Chris Tinsley (compuserve) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gsteckly@clark.dgim.doc.ca (Gary Steckly) Back on the original topic (Sam Leach's over unity plasma steam device) have you found any info on this? Something ominous is brewing here in Canada. The company that bought this thing from Leach is speaking of an imminent news release or conference at the end of this month where they will demonstrate the production prototype that they paid 130k$ for. I spoke with the company pres. and she seems to be excited on the border of fear for what this thing is going to do. She claims there will be no question about the validity of the device after their release. This Leach guy seems to have a pretty good record according to her. He held a patent on the original 3d process for movies and did quite well when he sold it to Eastman. He's no spring chicken apparently and just wants to see this invention in the hands of someone who will run with it. Apparently, they are real concerned about Mr. Leach's safety. He's under 24 hour guard. This is starting to sound like a B-movie! I'll try to keep you posted as this thing develops. regards Gary ----------------------------------------------------- I have not even had a chance to investigate. You seem to have learned a lot. If you communicate with these people, let me make a suggestion. Based upon what I have seen and heard, talking to the leading people in this field, the cost of the bodyguards is money well spent. It may sound like a B grade movie and pure paranoia, but I think it is a darn good idea. I am sure they have their reasons and suspicions and I expect those suspicions are justified. - Jed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 09-Jul-94 02:02 BST From: INTERNET:jim.day@support.com Subj: LOOSE END Chris, Sorry to pester you again, but here's another "loose end" to ponder in the following message forwarded from the sci.physics newsgroup. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Day ============================= Newsgroups: sci.physics From: gsteckly@clark.dgim.doc.ca (Gary Steckly) Subject: Re: Electric Arc Plasma Steam Generation Organization: Industry Canada Date: Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:16:26 GMT In article daveheld@delphi.com writes: >From: daveheld@delphi.com >Subject: Re: Electric Arc Plasma Steam Generation >Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 22:19:14 -0500 >Gary Steckly writes: > >>The inventor is an American by the name of Leach. Basically, the way it works is that a gas plasma is formed by ionizing a water spray containing an electrolyte. He injects a stream of water into an electric arc, thereby reducing the arc temperature, vapourizing the water and ionizing the hydrogen and oxygen atoms. >>Now please don't laugh or flame too much... I know all about the laws of thermodynamics...but it appears that this device might be exhibiting some excess energy production. >>Ha ha! (sorry) Flame! Flame! (sorry) That's ok...at least your flame is polite :-) > >Exactly what part of this description implies the presence of excess energy production? No part of the patent information infers any sort of excess energy or unusual phenomenon at all. However, the Canadian rights were recently acquired by a group in Vancouver, and they are listed on the TSE. There was a brief blurb in the Globe and Mail recently, and they mentioned things like "closed loop operation ...no fossil fuel required...only uses small amounts of water" The only phrase they didn't use was "perpetual motion" They also said that investors are not responding, which really comes as no surprise considering the rather incredible claim. > A tremendous amount of energy is poured into the plasma by the electric arc. This dissociates the molecules and ionizes the atoms. When the atoms restablize and the molecules recombine, that energy is returned as heat and light. The presence of water vapor or liquid in this formulation changes nothing as far as I can see. I'm not sure what determines the "temperature" of the arc, but as long as an arc persists, the process that I described goes on. > The presence of an "electrolyte" in the water is completely irrelevant, as an electrolyte is of interest only in the context of electrical conduction in a water solution, and I realize that, and I'm sure that's why he adds the electrolye. The arc he talks about is over 7 inches [long] and the voltages are only in the 2kV range, so he would need something to encourage conduction. > has no effect in a plasma, where any liquid water is quickly vaporized (and dissociated and ionized). > So again, my question is: why do you think something unusual is happening here?> >Dave> The only reason why I would even consider the possibility of something unusual here stems from something I recall Harold Puthoff (see the thread on amazing lightness in this conference) once suggested tapping energy from the vacuum (30 seconds allowed for laughter to subside). He suggested that devices employing cold plasma streams might exhibit vacuum energy effects, via the "Casimir pinch" effect. I don't believe this inventor is making any ZPE claims, but I couldn't help but notice the coincidence. So now I am just fishing for any info on this inventor, to see if any similar claims/suggestions have surfaced down south. regards Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gsteckly@clark.dgim.doc.ca (Gary Steckly) .... The developing story on the Leach device here in Canada is interesting, since this is a company with public stock offerings, and some respectable papers have covered it, although interestingly (and undertandably) the market is not responding. These are still penny stocks...likely the biggest bargain of the century if they can deliver. I spoke with the company CEO and they seem entirely serious and confident in the technology, although they can't understand Leach's explanations. I asked them if Leach ever mentioned ZPE or vacuum energy, but they have never even heard the term. I picked up a copy of his patent. He was careful not to say anything relating to OU energy production in the claims. Interestingly, it is a plasma device, utilizing water injection which breaks down in the electric arc, so the plasma is a soup of hydrogen, oxygen and free electrons. I will be following the development of the Leach device very closely and keep you posted. regards Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------