BtHK TYPE 32.00**2.00dead scroll hoax 1    (word processor parameters LM=8, RM=75, TM=2, BM=2) Taken from KeelyNet BBS (214) 324-3501 Sponsored by Vangard Sciences PO BOX 1031 Mesquite, TX 75150  There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS on duplicating, publishing or distributing the files on KeelyNet except where noted!  November 29, 1992  JUNGSUFO.ASC--------------------------------------------------------------------The following is a summary of the concepts from the book FLYINGSAUCERS, A MODERN MYTH OF THINGS SEEN IN THE SKY by C.G. JUNG.(1978, Princeton University press ISBN 0-691-01822-7, written in1958), and is part of the Collected works of C.G. Jung. All I could hope to do here is pick out major points of the book andrelate them as best I can. All quotes from the book will start with/and end with \ and include the paragraph number. Please forgive a word or two left out here and there. I wouldstrongly recommend a study of the works of Jung but for thoseunfamiliar I will try a brief description to avoid some confusion.--------------------------------------------------------------------Jung says the individual unconcious is as real and as important asthe conscious and that the collective unconcious is one shared byeveryone, built up and passed on somewhat like instincts in theanimal kingdom. He names the major influences of the unconcious archetypes. One hecalls the shadow, which is the 'bad' in us, another the anima oranimus which describes the traits of the opposite sex which we canall sometimes display. His philosophy is that the more we are awareof these traits the easier we can achieve individuation, or becominga whole person. Mandalas, circular objects (often found as art, the Aztec calendarmight be an example), are important because they often reveal muchabout ourselves. That is a very rough summary of some of his majorideas. (I am not an authority, hence the following has turned out tobe more of a "best of" quotes from the book. Hopefully his overallopinion of the subject can be deciphered.) In the introduction, Jung relates that there are manifestations ofpsychic changes which occur at the beginning and end of Platonicmonths, /589. Changes in the constellation of psychic dominants, ofthe archetypes, or "gods" as they used to be called, which bringabout, or accompany, long lasting transformations of the collectivepsyche... This transformation started in the historical era and left itstraces first in the passing of the aeon of Taurus into Aries, andthen Aires into Pisces, whose beginning coincides with the rise ofChristianity. We are now nearing that great change which may beexpected when the springpoint enters Aquarius.\  Page 1 Jung tackles the UFOs, 594/ only with their undoubted psychicaspect, and in what follow shall deal almost exclusively with theirpsychic comcomitants.\ In part 1 Jung cites several cases of spiritual seances in whichseveral attendees witnessed a visual phenomenon but others present(including himself) saw nothing. 608/ But if it (UFOs) is a case ofpsychological 'projection', there must be a psychic cause for it. One can hardly suppose that anything of such worldwide incidence asthe UFO legend is purely fortuitous and of no importance whatever,in this case a psychological situation common to all mankind. Thebasis for this kind of rumour is an emotional tension having itscause in a situation of collective distress or danger. Thiscondition undoubtedly exists today, in so far as the whole world issuffering under the strain of Russian policies and their stillunpredictable consequences. In the individual, too, such phenomena only occur when he issuffering from a psychic dissociation, when there is a split betweenthe conscious attitude and the unconcious contents opposed to it.Precisely because the conscious mind does not know about them and istherefore confronted with a situtation from which there seems to beno way out, these strange contents cannot be integrated directly butseek to express themselves indirectly, thus giving rise tounexpected and apparently inexplicable opinions, beliefs, illusions,visions, and so forth.\ He says that often this happens just to those who are least inclinedto believe in them, which then gives them an air of particularcredibility. /614 UFOs..have become a 'living myth'. We have here a goldenopportunity of seeing how a legend is formed, and how in a difficultand dark time for humanity a miraculous tale grows up of anattempted intervention by extra terrestrial "heavenly" powers, andthis at the very time when human fantasy is seriously consideringthe possibility of space travel... We at least are concious of ourspace conquering aspirations, but that a corresponding extraterrestrial tendency exists is a purely mythological conjecture,i.e., a projection.\ /622. If the round shining objects that appear in the sky beregarded as visions, we can hardly avoid interpreting them asarchetypal images. They would then be involuntary, automaticprojections based on istinct, and as little as any other psychicmanifestations or symptoms can they be dismissed as meaningless. Anyone with the requisite historical and psychological knowledgeknows that circular symbols have played an improtant role in everyage.. There is an old saying that "God is a circle whose centre iseverywhere and the circumference nowhere."\ /623. The present world situation is calculated as never before toarouse expectations of a redeeming, supernatural event. If theseexpectations have not dared to show themselves in the open, this issimply because no one is deeply rooted enough in the tradition ofearlier centuries to consider an intervention from heaven as amatter of course. We have indeed strayed far from the metaphysical  Page 2 certainties of the Middle Ages, but not so far that our historicaland psychological background is empty of all metaphysical hope.\ /625. Nuclear physics has begotten in the laymans head anuncertainty of judgment that far exceeds that of the physicists andmakes things appear possible which but a short while ago would havebeen declared nonsensical. Consequently the UFOs can easily beregarded and believed in as a physicists miracle.\--------------------------------------------------------------------In part 2, a major portion of the book, Jungs examines dreams thatinvolve UFOs and then comments on their particular 'meaning', toolengthy to repeat here. Some points he makes are; /636. It must be emphasized however that there is also thepossibility of a natural or absolute knowledge, when the unconciouspsyche coincides with objective facts. This is a problem that hasbeen raised by the discoveries of parapsychology. Absoluteknowledge occurs not only in telepathy and precognition, but also inbiology, for instance in the attunement of the virus of hydrophobiato the anatomy of dog and man as described by Portmann, the waspsapparent knowledge of where the motor ganglia are located in thecaterpillar that is to nourish the wasps progeny, the emission oflight by certain fishes and insects with almost 100% efficiency, thedirectional sense of carrier pigeons, the warning of earthquakesgiven by chickens and cats, and the amazing cooperation given insymbiotic relationships.\ (I could not help to think of the recentLear.txt when I read the following paragraph) /648. Today, as never before, men pay an extraordinary amount ofattention to the skies, for technological reasons. This isespecially true of the airman, whose field of vision is occupied onthe one hand by the complicated control apparatus before him, and onthe other by the empty vastness of cosmic space. His consciousnessis concentrated one sidedly on details requiring the most carefulobservation, while at his back, so to speak, his unconcious strivesto fill the illimitable emptiness of space. His training and hiscommon sense both preclude him from observing all the things thatmight rise up from within and become visible in order to compensatefor the emptiness and solitude of flight high above the earth. Sucha situation provides the ideal conditions for spontaneous psychicphenomena, as everyone knows who has lived sufficiently long in thesolitude, silence and emptiness of deserts, seas, mountains or inprimeaval forests. Rationalism and boredom are essentially productsof the over indulged craving for stimulation so characteristic ofurban populations. The city dweller seeks artificial sensations toescape his boredom; the hermit does not seek them, but is plagued bythem against his will.\ He continues by discussing how isolation,hunger, etc. can cause visions, hallucinations, in all men. /655. .. Either these are hard and fast facts, or else it is nothingbut illusion begotten by repressed sexuality or an over compensatedinferiority complex. As against this I haved urged that the psychebe recognized as having its own peculiar reality... Whatever thereality of the psyche may be, it seems to coincide with the realityof life and at the same time to have a connection with the formallaws governing the inorganic world. For the psyche has yet anotherproperty which most of us would rather not admit, namely, thatpecuiar factor which relativizes space and time, and is now theobject of intensive parapsychological research.\  Page 3 /667. Everything in our experience is subject to the law of gravitywith one great exception: the psyche, which, as we experience it, isweightlessness itself.\ /678. Modern man still does not realize that he is entirelydependent on the cooperation of the unconscious, which can actuallycut short the very next sentence he proposes to speak. He is unawarethat he is continuously sustained by something, while all the timehe regards himself exclusively as the doer.\ He then discusses theunconcious eloquently. /681. The only certain thing is our profound ignorance, which cannoteven know whether we have come nearer to the solution of the greatriddle or not. Nothing can carry us beyond an "It seems as if"except the perilous leap of faith, which we must leave to those whoare gifted or graced for it.\ In one dream a male is confronted by a female EBE and Jung discussesthe neccesity of realizing the anima in order to achieve fullrealization of the self. A tally of those reporting contact withEBE's to see how many have encountered those of the opposite sexwould be of interest as Jung relates the anima-animus realization isa difficult one, as compared to other aspects to it. (Although therecould be other reasons for the sex encountered.) After againdiscussing the stressfull, destructive age in which we live, he says/719. Anxiously we look round for collective measures, therebyreinforcing the very mass mindedness we want to fight against. Thereis only one remedy for the levelling effect of all collectivemeasures, and that is to emphasize and increase the value of theindividual. A fundamental change of attitude is required, a realrecognition of the whole man. This can only be the business of theindividual and it must begin with the individual in order to bereal.. Large political and social organizations must not be ends inthemselves, but merely temporary expedients. Just as it was feltneccessary in America to break up the great trusts, so thedestruction of huge organizations will eventually prove to be anecessity because, like a cancerous growth, they eat away mansnature as soon as they become ends in themselves and attainautonomy.\ He talks about attaining individuation and the experiences whichmake it difficult. /721. There is another reason why suchexperiences \(those found while attempting individuation) / areshunned, indeed feared as pathological, and why the very idea of theunconscious and any preoccupation with it is unwelcome. It was notso long ago that we were living in a primitive state of mind withits "perils of the soul" - loss of soul, states of possession, etc.,which threatened the unity of the personality, that is the ego thesedangers are still a long way from having been overcome in ourcivilized society. Though they no longer afflict the individual tothe same degree, this is certainly not true of social or nationalgroups on a large scale, as contemporary history shows only tooclearly. They are psychic epidemics that destroy the individual.\Perhaps this is the reason why talking about UFO's to the averageperson is looked upon as "wacko". /722. To the constantly reiterated question "What can I do ?" I knowno other answer except "Become what you have always been,", namely,the wholeness which we have lost in the midst of our civilized,  Page 4 conscious existence, a wholeness which we always were withoutknowing it... "What on earth can I do in the present threateningworld situation, with my feeble powers?"... To worship collectiveideals and work with the big organizations is spectacularlymeritorious, but they nevertheless dig the grave for the individual. A group is always of less value than the average run of its members,and when the group consists in the main of shirkers and good fornothings, what then? Then the ideals it preaches count for nothingtoo. Also, the right means in the hands of the wrong man work thewrong way, as a Chinese proverb informs us.\ In part 3 titled UFOs and Modern painting Jung discusses the imageof the UFO as a product of the unconcious brought to light withseveral (unknown) paintings, again stressing the similarity of theUFO and the mandala. Referring to the hypothesis that UFOs arepsychic projections of the unconcious, in order to compensate for alacking in the concious mind, he answers the question " What is theuse of them if we don't understand them? " /732. The language of the unconscious does not have the intentionalclarity of concious language; it is a condensation of numerous data,many of them subliminal, whose connection with conscious contents isnot known. These data do not take the form of a directed judgement,but follow an instinctinve, archaic, "pattern" which, because of itsmythological character, is not recognized by the reasoning mind. Thereaction of the uncounscious is a natural phenomenon that is notconcerned to benefit or guide the personal human being, but isregulated exclusively by the demands of psychic equilibrium.\ In summary Jung relates his findings are based on /771...not theproduct of unbridled fantasy, as is often supposed, but .. onthorough researchs into the history of symbols.\ and says he sparedus with the details (symbols are a major part of his work, found inother text). He explains with an example of the concept of numbersand how they can be considered "discovered" and therefore Godlike,or invented by man, as an instrument for counting. Part 4 is a summary of the history of UFO phenomena which discussesthe Basel Broadsheet, 1566, the Nuremburg Broadsheet, 1561, and acouple of other old prints depicting UFO type objects, though histhoughts continue in the same vein, that they are consciousrepresentations of the individual or collective unconscious. Part 5, UFOs considered in a non-psychological light, sums what hehas said up to this point, although I don't see where he treats themas other than psychological. I interpret it as UFOs are psychicprojections, and just because they are a product of our collectiveunconcious does not mean they can't show up on a radar screen. In the epilogue he relates the particulars of an EBE contact aspublished by Orfeo M. Angelucci, "The Secret of the Saucers" (1955),and Orfeo's story to shreds of a first year psychology analysispaper, picking out almost everything he reports and showing whatpsychological hypothesis it represents. He then prints the letter hewrote to the APRO bulletin in July 1958, and discusses thecontroversy that followed (they reported that he believed in UFOs,to which he objected. It is not as simple as believing or not.) Healso answers a couple of questions from the publisher of the APRO  Page 5 magazine and discusses ball lightning. The book ends with a copy ofa letter to Donald Keyhoe on his views. I consider this book an excellent addition to my library and mightconsider it to be more on the right track than anything else I haveread on the subject, although it was written 30 years ago. Even if all of what he conjectures about the stuff UFOs are made ofis wrong, there is still a wealth of material for individuation onevery page. Quantum physics says you can't measure it unless your apart of it. Abductions, implants, deals with the government, maybethese are all real to the people who see and experience them, andmaybe if they are real to them, they are real to all of us. I thinkwe would be remiss if the answer to the UFO phenomenon was written30 years ago and we have not taken the time to delve deeper intoconsidering this aspect of the explanation. It seems to be a realanswer to a real phenomenon, and as one who thinks he saw a flyingdisc, I would be most interested in knowing not quite what it was,but why a few friends and I saw it, I'm not about to dismiss thepossibility that "it was all in our minds".  Thomas Rhone May, 1988-------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have comments or other information relating to such topics as this paper covers, please upload to KeelyNet or send to the Vangard Sciences address as listed on the first page. Thank you for your consideration, interest and support.  Jerry W. 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